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Die Spinne is the historic German name of Spider-Man. The character appears in Germany as early as 1966 in the Hit Comics collection of the Bildschriftenverlag (BSV). The Die Spinne series proper then appears at Williams, a Hamburg publisher founded in October 1973 under the aegis of the Warner group, from January 1974 to November 1978, for 100 issues. In 1979, the license passes to Condor, which publishes issues, albums and above all paperbacks gathering about five American episodes, with often abridged text. The value of these editions is not computed like that of the American originals: they are translated reprints, with no first appearance. It depends on the publisher, the format, the condition and the completeness, and is measured on the German secondhand market, not on American price guides.

In many German attics sit stacks of issues marked Die Spinne, bought at newsstands in the 1970s or early 1980s. Their owners, or their heirs, sooner or later ask the same question: what are they worth? The honest answer begins with a precise identification, because three successive publishers put out Spider-Man in Germany during this period, in very different formats.

This article is designed for that audience: those looking to "Comic Wert ermitteln," to estimate their German comics, without knowing the American market. It gives no price figures, because no reliable, dated source publishes any for these editions. It does give the method for identifying what you hold in your hands, and the criteria that raise or lower the value.

At a glance : Die Spinne at Williams, then Condor

Before Williams: Hit Comics and the Bildschriftenverlag

American superheroes arrive in West Germany through a publisher from Aachen, the Bildschriftenverlag, abbreviated BSV. Founded in Hamburg in 1956, it had made a name with a collection of illustrated classics and published series under license from American publishers. From 1966, its Hit Comics collection presents Marvel characters to the German public for the first time, under translated names that make us smile today: Die Spinne for Spider-Man, Der Eiserne for Iron Man, Halk for Hulk, Devil-Man for Daredevil, X-Männer for the X-Men.

The same year, the BSV is bought by the American publisher that would become DC, itself later absorbed by the Warner group. This detail explains a curiosity of German history: for several years, Marvel's heroes are published there by a company belonging to the group that owns its main competitor. In 1971, Warner decides to publish in Europe under a single brand, Williams. BSV issues then carry the mention of a Williams department, then, in October 1973, an independent Williams house is founded in Hamburg. The BSV is dissolved in 1974.

For a collector, this BSV phase is the oldest and the least homogeneous. The Hit Comics issues mix several characters, and Spider-Man's presence there is intermittent. If you own issues prior to 1974 carrying the BSV logo, you are looking at the very first traces of Spider-Man in German.

Williams, 1974-1978: the 100 issues of Die Spinne

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Die Spinne, Williams editions

January 1974 to November 1978 · 100 issues · Hamburg
The reference series

This is the series most German collectors mean when they talk about Die Spinne. For nearly five years, it publishes in translation Spider-Man's American adventures, at newsstand pace. The series stops at issue 100, in November 1978, at the end of the license with this publisher.

Worth knowing: a closed series numbered 1 to 100 is the easiest object to estimate, because you can reason in terms of complete collection, single issues, or first issues.

The nature of these issues must be well understood. They are translated reprints of episodes already published in the United States a few years earlier. An issue of Die Spinne is therefore never a character's first appearance, even if it reprints the American episode where that character debuted. The American market reserves its top prices for the original editions; foreign editions form a parallel market, driven by local nostalgia.

This parallel market is not negligible. The German readers who discovered Spider-Man in these issues now have the age and the means to buy back the issues of their childhood. Demand exists, but it is geographically concentrated: it is measured in Germany, Austria and German-speaking Switzerland, almost nowhere else.

Condor, from 1979: the reign of the paperback

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Die Spinne, Condor editions

From 1979 · issues, albums, paperbacks
The pocket format

In 1979, the license passes to Condor, a Hamburg house founded in 1973. Condor publishes Spider-Man under the retained title Die Spinne, alongside other Marvel series: Die Rächer for the Avengers, Der mächtige Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Die Fantastischen Vier, Die Gruppe X then Die neuen X-Men for the X-Men.

Worth knowing: Condor paperbacks generally gathered about five 22-page American episodes, at a price of 5.80 marks, and their texts were often heavily abridged to fit the reduced format.

The pocket format is Condor's great specificity. Shrinking American pages to the size of a paperback forces tightening the text: the translators, among them Michael Nagula, often cut the dialogue heavily. For a reader, it is an impoverished version. For a collector, it is on the contrary a signature: these paperbacks are recognizable at a glance, and they have an identity of their own that the issues do not.

Condor also produced "Maxi Pockets": two unsold paperbacks, bound together under a new cover, in volumes of about 320 pages. Some even combined two different series, for example a Hulk paperback and a Thor paperback under a shared title. These volumes are a way of recycling unsold stock, which complicates their identification: their content does not always match their title.

Finally, Condor published its issues and albums most often without advertising, apart from announcements for its own products. It is a practical clue for telling a Condor issue from a Williams one, whose newsstand layout followed other conventions.

Identifying what you have: the method

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Look at the masthead

In small print, inside the cover or on the last page, appear the publisher's name, the city and often the year. Hit Comics and the BSV mention designate the pre-1974 period; Williams the 1974-1978 period; Condor the period opened in 1979.

2

Measure the format

A newsstand issue, an album, a paperback and a 320-page Maxi Pocket are not sold to the same audience. Note the format before any price search.

3

Record the number

For the Williams series, the number from 1 to 100 is enough to place the issue. For Condor, note the exact title and volume number, because several collections coexisted.

4

Identify the American content

Spot which original episode is translated. It is not a question of direct value, but some episodes highly sought in the United States make their translation more in demand.

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Assess condition honestly

Cover, spine, corners, yellowed pages, cutouts, writing. On 1970s newsstand paper, condition accounts for the largest part of the gap between two copies.

What makes a Die Spinne valuable

Without putting forward figures, we can describe the relative hierarchy these editions follow, like most foreign editions of American comics.

A series' first issue. Issue 1 of the Williams series is the most in-demand object, for the same reason as everywhere: it opens the collection, it was often read, damaged or thrown away more than the others, and it serves as a draw for anyone wanting to start. The first issues of a Condor collection play a comparable role, on a smaller scale.

The complete collection. A closed series of 100 issues, assembled in uniformly good condition, is generally worth more than the sum of its issues sold individually, because it spares the buyer years of searching. If you are a few issues away from the complete series, it may be wise to complete it before selling.

The translated content. An issue that reprints a famous American episode, for example the death of a major character or the first meeting with a great adversary, attracts more. It is not a first appearance, but it is often the first time that story was read in German, and the nostalgia audience remembers it.

The condition. Copies that have gone through fifty years without a crease or tear are rare, because these issues were reading objects, traded in schoolyards. A copy in very fine condition stands clearly apart from the lot. Conversely, an issue that is cut up, annotated or incomplete loses most of its collecting interest.

The format. On the market, newsstand issues are generally more sought after than paperbacks, whose text was abridged. Maxi Pockets, born of recycling unsold stock, are the least prized, except for collectors who specifically seek completeness of Condor formats.

How to get an idea of the price

Since no reliable, dated price guide is published for these editions, the only serious method is to observe actually completed sales on the German secondhand market, comparing copies of the same publisher, same number and comparable condition. Asking prices are not sale prices: only the amounts actually paid count. Our general method for estimating the value of a specific comic applies here step by step, and the free estimate tool helps structure the approach.

Three mistakes come up constantly. The first is to apply to a German issue the price of the original American episode: the two objects have nothing to do with each other. The second is to confuse publishers, and to estimate a Condor paperback like a Williams issue. The third is to overestimate the condition of your own copies, a natural reflex when it comes to childhood memories.

One last remark on certification. Having a foreign issue certified by a service like CGC is possible for certain formats, but the cost of the operation often exceeds the price gap it can produce on these editions. Reserve it, if it is feasible, for exceptional copies of the most in-demand issues.

The European cousins

Germany is not an isolated case. Every major European country has had its historic Spider-Man publisher or publishers, with their own formats and numbering. Our article on the Semic editions of the 1980s and 1990s covers a neighboring case in the Nordic and French world, and the one on Mexican Spider-Man editions shows how a local market can, conversely, interest American collectors. The logic is the same everywhere: a foreign edition is worth what its local audience is willing to pay, not what the original is worth.

Frequently asked questions

Die Spinne, "the spider" in German, is the name under which Spider-Man was published in West Germany from 1966, first in the Hit Comics collection of the Bildschriftenverlag, then in a series of its own at Williams from January 1974 to November 1978, and finally at Condor from 1979. These are translations of American episodes, not original stories. The name was kept by both successive publishers.
The Die Spinne series published by Williams has 100 issues, released from January 1974 to November 1978. Williams was a Hamburg house founded in October 1973 under the aegis of the Warner group, which published in Europe under this single brand. After the end of this series, the Spider-Man license passed to the publisher Condor in 1979, which took over the title Die Spinne in other formats.
The surest way is to read the masthead, the small-print legal notice that gives the publisher and the year. The date also helps: before 1979, it is Williams or, before 1974, the Bildschriftenverlag; from 1979, Condor. The format is another clue, since Condor published a lot in paperback, with about five episodes per volume, and generally published its issues without outside advertising.
No, and it is the most frequent mistake. German issues are translated reprints, published after the original American edition. They contain no first appearance in the market's sense, even when they translate a famous episode. Their value forms on the German secondhand market, driven by the nostalgia of 1970s readers, and does not follow American price guides. Compare only with sales of equivalent German editions.
They have an audience, but generally narrower than that of the issues. Their texts were often heavily abridged to fit the reduced format, which makes them less satisfying to read. They remain sought by collectors of Condor formats and by those who read Spider-Man in this form. Maxi Pockets, which bound two unsold paperbacks under a new cover, are in principle the least in demand.
Start with an inventory: publisher, format, number and condition of each copy. Check whether your Williams series is complete, because a uniform 100-issue collection is often worth more than single issues. Then observe actually completed sales for comparable copies on the German secondhand market. Never use asking prices, only prices paid, and stay cautious about your own assessment of condition.
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